CRY HAVOC, THE DOGS ARE BARKING MAD!

Military working dogs have feelings too..

From Targets Down Adults Only sealed section by our special correspondent, Roger Rollover.

Let slip the dogs of war.

ADF Canine in Chief from Roger Rollover, Senior Officers’ Companion Canines Command.

Spot, we’ve been sniffing around each other long enough to understand each other intimately.

As Top Dog (excuse gender specific language) I trust you will be first to howl at the moon over this latest nonsense from CDF-for-life insisting military dog handlers are to be retrained to limit “cultural sensitivity risks” when confronting enemy fighters or terrorists.

I’ve seen better stuff left on footpaths!

“Handlers are expected to ensure their use of ADF Military Working Dogs is reasonable and necessary in the circumstances.

“Those directing or employing ADF MWD teams are expected to be cognisant of any cultural sensitivities in relation to the use of ADF MWD and, where circumstances allow, take active steps to minimise cultural sensitivity risks associated with such use.”

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Vietnam’s Leaders to Ensure Control Under the Communist Party

Vietnam is currently experiencing a surge in global attention, transitioning from its former status of strategic obscurity to becoming a sought-after partner on the international stage. Previously overshadowed and little-known, Vietnam now finds itself courted by prominent figures such as US President Joe Biden and Chinese leader Xi Jinping, both of whom made visits to the country last year. This newfound interest culminated in the elevation of the US-Vietnam relationship to the highest level, termed a “comprehensive strategic partnership.”

Vietnam’s proactive engagement is evident through its participation in 18 existing or planned free trade agreements and collaborations on various fronts including climate change, supply chain resilience, and pandemic preparedness. Positioned as a significant player in the escalating US-China rivalry, Vietnam asserts itself in territorial disputes like the South China Sea and emerges as a viable alternative to China for manufacturing outsourcing.

Despite these shifts, Vietnam’s political landscape remains firmly under the control of the Communist Party, maintaining strict suppression of political dissent and opposition. As one of the few remaining Communist, one-party states globally, Vietnam prohibits political opposition and routinely incarcerates dissidents. Decision-making within the upper echelons of the party remains veiled in secrecy.

However, a leaked internal document from Vietnam’s highest decision-making body, the Politburo of the Central Committee, sheds light on the party’s perspectives regarding international partnerships. This document, known as Directive 24, warns against perceived threats to national security posed by external influences brought about by increased international ties. It underscores concerns about the formation of opposition groups and emphasizes the need for vigilance against potential sabotage and political transformation activities.

Interpretations of Directive 24 vary. While some view it as signalling an intensified crackdown on human rights activists and civil society groups, others perceive it as a pre-emptive measure to safeguard against perceived external interference. The timing of the directive, issued following the elevation of US-Vietnam relations and ahead of President Biden’s visit, suggests strategic considerations influenced its release.

Directive 24 underscores the delicate balancing act faced by Vietnam’s leaders as the country emerges as a global manufacturing and trading hub. Unlike China, Vietnam cannot isolate itself behind a digital firewall due to its reliance on foreign investment and technology. While Vietnam has entered into free trade agreements with clauses addressing human and labour rights, the directive indicates reluctance to fully adhere to these provisions.

Critics argue that Vietnam’s commitments to human and labour rights in trade agreements serve as mere veneers, concealing a political system unwilling to respect individual rights. The imprisonment of environmental and climate activists following the signing of significant energy transition partnerships underscores these concerns.

In a historical context, one-party Marxist-Leninist states have transitioned from being perceived as harbingers of progress to becoming anomalies in the contemporary political landscape. Vietnam’s leadership aims to maintain strict political control while exposing its populace to external influences, hoping to sustain economic growth amidst evolving global dynamics.

 

 

Nous for defence not just game of rhetoric

READ any contemporary media defence commentary and you’ll experience the destruction of multiple forest hectares, tonnes of CO2 but very little informed understanding of war.

Some experienced, surgically precise analysts, plus this present pocket gem of brilliance naturally excepted.

War evolves in four phases, political, strategic, operational and tactical.

The first two are fought mostly by Group A, politicians with narrow minds, broad hands, thick map pencils and small-scale maps.

Probably the worst by a short head was Austrian, the mere mention of whose name now results in life imprisonment without parole.

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FOR THOSE WHO ARE CLOSE to 60yrs OLD AND ABOVE PLEASE READ THIS.

This is for you. Some really great advice!

Between 60 and death. It’s time to use the money you saved up. Use it and enjoy it. Don’t just keep it for those who may have no notion of the sacrifices you made to get it. Remember there is nothing more dangerous than a son or daughter-in-law with big ideas for your hard-earned capital.

Warning: This is also a bad time for investments, even if it seems wonderful or foolproof. They only bring problems and worries. This is a time for you to enjoy some peace and quiet.

Stop worrying about the financial situation of your children and grandchildren, and don’t feel bad spending your money on yourself. You’ve taken care of them for many years, and you’ve taught them what you could. You gave them an education, food, shelter, and support. The responsibility is now theirs to earn their own money.

Keep a healthy life, without great physical effort. Do moderate exercise (like walking every day), eat well, and get your sleep. It’s easy to become sick, and it gets harder to remain healthy. That is why you need to keep yourself in good shape and be aware of your medical and physical needs. Keep in touch with your doctor and do tests even when you’re feeling well. Stay informed.

The key goal is to enjoy your money with your partner. One day one of you will miss the other, and the money will not provide any comfort then, enjoy it together.

Don’t stress over the little things. You’ve already overcome so much in your life. You have good memories and bad ones, but the important thing is the present. Don’t let the past drag you down and don’t let the future frighten you. Feel good in the now. Small issues will soon be forgotten.

Regardless of age, always keep love alive. Love your partner, love life, love your family, love your neighbour and remember: “A man is not old as long as he has intelligence and affection.”

Be proud, both inside and out. Don’t stop going to your hair salon or barber, do your nails, go to the dermatologist and the dentist, and keep your perfumes and creams well stocked. When you are well-maintained on the outside, it seeps in, making you feel proud and strong.

ALWAYS stay up to date. Read newspapers and watch the news. Go online and read what people are saying. Make sure you have an active email account and try to use some of those social networks. You’ll be surprised at what old friends you’ll meet.

Respect the younger generation and their opinions. They may not have the same ideas as you, but they are the future and will take the world in their direction. Give advice, not criticism, and try to remind them that yesterday’s wisdom still applies today.

Never use the phrase: “In my time.” Your time is now. As long as you’re alive, you are part of this time.

Some people embrace their golden years, while others become bitter and surly. Life is too short to waste your days on the latter. Spend your time with positive, cheerful people, it’ll rub off on you and your days will seem that much better. Spending your time with bitter people will make you feel older and harder to be around.

Do not surrender to the temptation of living with your children or grandchildren (if you have a financial choice, that is). Sure, being surrounded by family sounds great, but we all need our privacy. They need theirs and you need yours. Even then, do so only if you feel you really need the help or do not want to live by yourself.

Don’t abandon your hobbies. If you don’t have any, make new ones. You can travel, hike, cook, read, and dance. You can adopt a cat or a dog, grow a kitchen garden, play cards, checkers, chess, dominoes, and golf.

Try to go. Get out of the house, meet people you haven’t seen in a while, and experience something new (or something old). The important thing is to leave the house from time to time. Go to museums, go walk through a park. Get out there.

Speak in courteous tones and try not to complain or criticize too much unless you really need to. Try to accept situations as they are.

Pains and discomfort go hand in hand with getting older. Try not to dwell on them but accept them as a part of life.

If you’ve been offended by someone – forgive them. If you’ve offended someone apologize. Don’t drag around resentment with you. It only serves to make you sad and bitter. It doesn’t matter who was right. Someone once said: “Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die.” Don’t take that poison. Forgive, forget, and move on with your life.

Laugh. Laugh away your worries Remember, you are one of the lucky ones. You managed to have a life, a long one. Many never get to this age, and never get to experience a full life.

My valued friends, enjoy peaceful life at this point in your life …

Don’t worry… be happy.

 

This is the INTSUM compiled after the Battle of Nui Le on November 4 1971.

This is the INTSUM compiled after the Battle of Nui Le on November 4 1971.

Dave Morris.

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AUSTRALIAN ARMY

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ANNEX B TO 4 RAR/NZ (ANZAC) Bn

AFTERACTION REPORT OPERATION IVANHOE

DATED 4 NOV 71

INTELLIGENCE SUMMMARY

References: A. 4 RAR/NZ(ANZAC) Bn Weekly Intelligence Review 718/41 dated 22 Sep 71

  1. 4 RAR/NZ(ANZAC) Bn Weekly Intelligence Review 718/42 dated 29 Sep 71
  2. 4 RAR/NZ(ANZAC) Bn Weekly Intelligence Review 718/43 dated 6 Oct 71

General Background

  1. Early in Sep a number of consistent sniffer readings to the East of the NUI LE and in the vicinity of the NUI SAO feature, indicated the possible presence of an unidentified enemy group – thought to be elements from 33 NVA Regt.
  2. As a result, D Coy 4 RAR/NZ(ANZAC) Bn was redeployed from the area of old FSB ASH (YS 3682) to the East of Courtenay Plantation into old FSB TRISH (YS 5288); and commenced a search of the country to the North and East, later progressing to the West and South covering the NUI LE area.
  3. On 10 Sep VR aircraft reported a number of tracks leading into the Province from the North.
  4. On the 14 Sep at YS 512871 D Coy contacted 2 enemy carrying packs who withdrew South/West along a track. The next day they contacted 2 enemy scouts, killing one at YS515867. The enemy was moving East – West using a compass, and a track for a squad sized group was located running North – South in the area. The enemy KIA carried no identification.
  5. American forces had experienced numerous contacts in the vicinity of NUI HOT with elet:1emts of Regt HQ until 16 Sep. However, from then on there had been a lack of contact in the area.
  6. VR.ac also revealed a number of tracks in the SUOI RAN, SUOI LE area at this time. It is likely that 3 Bn had moved from its base area East of BAO BINH down by the SUOI NHAC into the Province.
  7. During the early hours 19 Sep 626 RF Coy outpost (YS 461834) received an ABF of 75mm recoilless rifle rounds, and 82mm mortars. 3 RF were WIA when several RR rounds impacted inside the post. The use of that calibre RR indicated the presence of C17 Recoilless Rifle Coy (max str 20). 82mm Mortars are held by both C16 1-lortar Coy (max str 25) and C12 Heavy Weapons Coy – 3 Bn, (max str 30). VR as reported tracks to and from the firing point/base plate to the East.
  8. Shortly after a light sapper attack was launched against the village of NGAI GIAO (YS 463794) by approx. 10-12 enemy, who threw 3 satchel charges at outlying buildings.

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  1. However, the group most likely responsible for the sapper attack is thought to have been C3 Coy 1 Bn 274 VC Regt – who had been allocated the task of “occupyingNGAI GIA0 according to documents CIA by 1 ATF ptl on 18 Aug 71.
  2. Subsequent attacks on the village on 28 Sep and 10 Oct (after elements from 33 NVA Regt arc assessed to have departed from the area) would seem to back such reasoning. However, the capability of the VC during the attacks did not appear to be high, so it is more likely that local NGAI GIAO) ordistrict (CHAU DUC) forces were involved (Interrogation of PW’s 1rom these two forces, CL on 20 Oct, tends to support that the attack. were undertaken by them: not elements from either Regt).
  3. On the morning 20 Sep, 4 AFCs from 1 Tp A Sqn 3 Cav Regt returning North along Route 2 were ambushed at YS 461821 by approx. 20 enemy, who were dug in, fired RPG 2s and 7s at the vehicles. One enemy was KIA. He was carrying a greater than normal amount of ammo (174rds 7.62mm short) but no identification marks/ documents. Again, characteristic of 33 NVA unit.12.
  4. The amount, and types of ammo employed by the enemy during the attacks on 19/20 Sep (75mm RR, 82mm Mor, RPG 2 and 7) indicated the presence of a regular unit, operating East of Route 2
  5. Agent reports substantiated the existence of such a group.

Base Areas

  1. It was apparent that Regt HQ 33 NVA Regt, anxious to evade from 3 Bde (US) operations, had moved South from the NUI HOT area into PHOUC TUY Province.
  2. Bn was also moved from its base area East of BAI BINH, into the province.
  3. Both groups may have thought that the Australian Forces no longer operate1 in the area. From Jun-Aug 71 there v:as no sizeable ground coverage East or South of Courtenay Plantation – all Coy sized operations conducted since Aug had managed to keep resupply to a minimum, thus not advertising their tasks unduly.

17• Combined with the announcement of the impending withdrawal of Australian Forces (which it is assessed, 33 Rgt. HQ would have known of by early Sep) and pressure from 3 Bde: a new area. was reconnoitered.

  1. An area was located near the NUI LE – SAO features. It was located near known RSG re-supply routes, had good canopy for protection against aerial observation – which had previously contributed to the Regt1s considerable casualties. There were high features to assist with communications and observation. The SUOI YOUERT, and SUOI TAM BO offered good water supply and combined with the surrounding terrain to restrict the employment of allied amour in the area.

The Threat

19.The establishing of an operating base in this area would provide relatively easy access to the villages and outposts of DUC THANH District.

20.There was also the agent report that elements of 33 Regt would support operations of 274 Regt along Route 2, though this seemed doubtful.

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21 The strength of 33 NVA Regt HQ and all Sp Coys was assessed to be 378 and 3 Bn was held at 300 strong. 1 Bn (str 300) was not thought to be in the area, having been released from its task of providing security for Regt HQ. It was identified in central LONG KNANH Province from documents CIA by 984 RF Coy on 15/16 Sep.

  1. Regt HQ 274 VC Regt was, at the time, 300 strong; and 1 Bn totalled 235 persons.

Enemy Losses

23.A list of enemy casualties and captured weapons is attached as Appendix 1.

Installations and caches

23.Installations and caches located by the unit are summerised as Annex E.

Captured Equipment

  1. A summary of equipment, including munitions captured, is attached as Appendix 2.

Energy Activities/Tactics

  1. On 20 Sep D Coy killed 1NVA Ln a contact at YS 51185 although no identification was apparent.

27• Elements of D Coy were engaged by RPG and SA fire on the morning of 21 Sep in the vie YS 513857. Throughout the 21 Sep repeated air and artillery strikes were employed in support of D Coy as a series of assaults were launched upon (what was later found to be) the Western most bunker system of a 4-system complex, large enough (24 completed bunkers with 15 prepared bunker sites) to accommodate the

bulk of 3 Bn 33 NVA Regt.

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28 · The NVA defenders employed good fire control – seeking out D Coy1s machine guns, and areas from which commands were being shouted. Most bunkers had fire lanes cut (up to 5ft in width) to cover the most likely approaches and were sited to be mutually supporting. The majority of CHICOM grenades thrown at D Coy fortunately did not detonate.

29 Advantage was taken of the good canopy cover and high ground to the NVJ, North and NE of the complex to employ intensive ground fire against supporting helicopter fire teams and Jade ac throughout the day.

30 As D Coy extracted its casualties and moved out of the bunker systems to allow for further sp fire, it received SA fire on its flanks from mobile groups of NVA who had come from other systems within the complex. This follow up of D Coy continued to the perimeter of its NDP, which was also under fire, from a separate 14 bunker complex 400 meters SW from the contact area.

31 Fire from this system was mainly directed from an OP (later a 30ft ladder against a suitable tree was found during the search of the system). Harassing fire continued into the NDP until well after darkness.

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32 The reason for the close follow up of D Coy appears to have been an attempt to prevent the employment of close aerial and artillery support. Employing an NVA tactic of withdrawing in the direction from which they are under attack, incorporating flanking movement/harassment. Thirdly, the NVA were concerned that

D Coy was moving (to its NDP) close to the 14-bunker system, and went to assist its inhabitants evacuate the system, by harassing D Coy .

33 A total of 9 NVA were confirmed as being accounted for by D Coy during the day of 21 Sep.

34 A heavily used track subsequently located by D Coy 3 RAR revealed that the NVA had departed the complex to the North (probably the HQ group), whilst a heavier track to the Northeast but South (in YS 5284) of the complex, was the probable route of the follow up/withdrawal force.

35  B Coy followed up an insulated communication/navigation wire contacted and killed a member identified as being from C9 Coy 3 Bn at YS 487833 during the morning of 21 Sep.

36 Subsequent follow up/search located many freshly cut – recently well used tracks in the area – and during the afternoon a further contact developed, with elements of the Coy receiving 60mm mortar fire, and a further NVA soldier was confirmed as killed, as a B Coy subunit (4 Pl) moved to assist members of the coy wounded during the shelling.

37 Supporting aircraft again reported ground fire from this area. From what appears to have been a suspected NVA mortar base plate position that was engaged.by artillery, a secondary explosion was reported in YS 5083. (Each Coy of C10, C11 have at least one 60mr.1 mortar within its organization). found during the search of the system).

38 The insulated wire located by B Coy in the vicinity of the ABFs, and ambushing position on Route 2, and through the subsequent contact areas (YS 4682, YS 4683, 4883, 4983) was probably used as a night navigation aid and communications.

link between attacking/observing elements and HQ 33 NVA Regt used similar insulated wire linking such positions to the South of LONG BINH for their attacks during TET 1969.

39 Direction of the withdrawal of the NVA (assessed to be composed of elements from the Regt Sp Coys C16 mor, C17 and some C20 Si6s and elements from 3 Bn probably for protection) from the B Coy area was East to the SUOI YOUZRT then NE, and ESE. Tracks were later located in the area by C Coy searching further to the East.

  1. A NVA soldier carrying documents mentioning C17 RR, C19 Engr and C20 Sigs Coys of 33 NVA Regtwas KIA by Sp Tp A Sqn 3 Cav Regt of 21 Sep well to the NE at YS 637873 during an abortive ambush on Route 2 against 1 Tp A Sqn.
  2. Other incidents during the operation included the detonating of two AT mines (consisting of approx. 60lbs CHICOM explosive) by two APCs of 1 Tp A Sqn 3 Cav Regtin the Courtenay Rubber on 25 Sep 71. It is likely that the mines were placed in position by elements from C2 (ex A2) Engr Coy BA I.DNG and CHAU DUC Engr Cell who were based just to the South of the Plantation near XA BANG in AUG 71.

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42 C Coy located a cache on a platform in water-logged country at YS 473869. There were 25 x 15 litre bags of rice – which appeared to have been in place about one month – probably stores belonging 814 RSG or C5 Coy of J85 Tpt Bn who have operated in the area recently. An old German rifle was also located in the vicinity by C Coy, likely to have been guerilla equipment.

Assessment

43 The building of good bunker systems, and the cutting of tracks to facilitate rapid redeployment of subunits in the vicinity of HUI SAO/Route 2, indicated that Regt HQ and 3 Bn had intended to establish a semi-permanent base for future operations in that area of PHOUC TUY Province. Indications are that the NVA group intend to remain in the area, had it not been for the reaction of 1 ATF and sub­sequent losses sustained by the NVA in action.

  1. There is no doubt that the quick retaliatory reaction by AFCs from 1Tp A Sqn 3 Cav Regt when ambushed on 20 Sep; and aggressive action by D Coy and B Coy with plentiful close air and artillery support of 21 Sep 71; were responsible in forcing the NVA to abandon their efforts (which had been considerable) to harass the district and return to more secure surroundings North of the Province boundary.

 

Virtue signalling sure is an expensive business.

Welcome to Bowen and Albanese’s wonderful world of net zero.
For just $92,990, plus on-road costs you can drive away in a brand new, made in China, LDV eT60.
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With a driving range of 330km (halved when towing or carrying a load), you better go without free floor mats and ask the salesman to throw in a diesel generator and a jerry can. You can just read a book (or 2) while you wait between 1 and 9 hours for a recharge.
Not convinced? Here’s the kicker, it’s ‘carbon neutral’. As long as you ignore its 3,050kg of steel, copper, lithium, nickel, manganese, cobalt, graphite, zinc and rare earths etc. Don’t forget to turn a blind eye to the coal fired power used in the factory, the diesel trains, trucks and ships used for transport and the fossil fuels you will use to charge it at night in the comfort of your own garage.
Virtue signalling sure is an expensive business.

Waking from the slumber is of paramount importance.

If you were to survey many Australians, they would likely agree that the primary duty of the Australian government is to safeguard the nation’s defence. However, the concept of “Defence of Australia” is more complex than it initially seems.

While most Australians unquestionably support defending the mainland and safeguarding economic interests both in the Indo-Pacific region and globally, there’s a challenge in determining where the interests of defending Australia’s mainland intersect with its economic and strategic interests on a regional and global scale. This challenge is exacerbated by the current global landscape, which is marked by increased multipolarity and competition among major and emerging powers.

Former Prime Minister Paul Keating and strategic policy experts like Hugh White argue that Australia’s defence strategy predominantly revolves around its exclusive economic zone (EEZ). They suggest that beyond this zone, Australia relies heavily on the protection of “great and powerful friends” for its security.

The 2023 Defence Strategic Review (DSR) proposed a shift in defence posture, emphasizing a strategy of denial rather than direct defence against invasion. This entails leveraging long-range capabilities and future nuclear-powered submarines to control and deter hostilities in critical maritime corridors, notably the Straits of Malacca, Lombok, and Sunda.

However, critics like historian Alex McDermott and former foreign minister Alexander Downer argue that Australia’s defence strategy mirrors the isolationist tendencies of the 1930s. They highlight a historical reluctance to engage actively in global conflicts and a heavy reliance on alliances, particularly with the United States.

While there’s acknowledgment of the need to update defence capabilities, there’s also criticism that current strategies fail to address the evolving geopolitical landscape adequately. The focus remains on dominating the sea-air gap, reminiscent of strategies outlined in the 1987 Defence white paper.

To address these shortcomings, there’s a call for a more balanced approach to defence, moving away from a sole reliance on “great and powerful friends” towards developing serious and lethal defence capabilities. This shift requires a broader understanding of Australia’s role in the region and a commitment to investing in capabilities that can operate effectively both domestically and throughout the Indo-Pacific.

Moreover, there’s a recognition that economic resilience is vital for national security. Strengthening economic resilience is seen as a crucial aspect of deterrence against economic coercion from adversaries. This necessitates a long-term perspective and a willingness to invest in economic diversification and innovation.

Ultimately, Australia must engage in a transparent dialogue with its citizens about its defence strategy and broader geopolitical ambitions. This includes considering Australia’s role as a regional or even global power and the implications of such a positioning for current and future generations. Breaking away from short-term thinking and embracing a more long-term perspective is essential for Australia to navigate the challenges of the new era of great power competition successfully.

 

Improving your MyService experience.

ED: Some advice: Before making a claim ensure that you speak with a qualified advocate at the RSL or veteran’s organisation.

Modernising DVA’s ICT is one of our top priorities and a focus of the Royal Commission’s Interim Report.

Recent enhancements to MyService are making it easier for veterans and families to lodge claims and access support and services.

When claiming Initial Liability, Disability Compensation Payment, Application for Increase to Disability Compensation Payments and (from 26 February 2024) Permanent Impairment claims (DRCA/MRCA), you are now:

  • prompted to provide the information needed to support the claim at the time you submit it
  • notified through your myGov inbox if we need further information about your claim, along with a Task to complete that helps you to provide the additional information required
  • given enhanced options to upload documents to your claims, including any ‘Other’ documents you might like to add up until determination, and view details of your documents and claims.

This means you can now view up-to-date information and provide all documents via MyService for all claims, whether submitted through MyService or other channels, reducing the need to send that information by email or post.

For more information, please see the MyService Enhancements Factsheet. For any further assistance, please call us on 1800 VETERAN (1800 838 372).

 

Watch this video maybe it should have been my ‘Friday Smile’

ED: This was in my inbox and poses a question … Thanks Geoff.

Set aside politics for just a second. My question is … If these people worked for you or your company and they could not answer a simple question like they are asked, would you fire them for not knowing facts highly relevant their job, a fact that are actually the fabric of their employment?

I would, but then again in this current world facts are not important it’s the objective.

The question is… What percentage of CO2 is in the atmosphere?

ED: My view: If it’s a fundamental aspect of their work, especially if they are in a field related to environmental science, climate change, or policymaking, then yes, it would be reasonable to expect them to know such basic information.

As for the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere, as of 2022, it was approximately around 0.04%. It’s crucial for informed decision-making, especially in sectors where environmental impact is a concern.

If CO2 levels were to drop too low, it could potentially hinder the ability of plants to perform photosynthesis effectively, leading to reduced plant growth and productivity. This, in turn, could impact ecosystems, agriculture, and the availability of food resources.

Furthermore, CO2 plays a role in regulating Earth’s temperature through the greenhouse effect. While excessive levels of CO2 can contribute to global warming and climate change, too little CO2 could potentially lead to cooling of the planet, altering climate patterns in unpredictable ways.

While carbon dioxide concentrations dropping below 0.02% might not pose an immediate danger, it would have significant long-term consequences for Earth’s biosphere and climate if sustained over extended periods.